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so uh yeah ginger is right i work with

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gotten a lot of media of with the march

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the last one was last september and

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may 24th i think that is i'll check the

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date on that that's the end of may and

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that's attracted a lot of people and

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people uh hundreds we've had hundreds of

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people show and that's at monsanto's

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world headquarters

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that's where you can keep up with events

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like that and events that we're doing

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topic which is not really true it's a

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all of these things

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on each of those things so we're going

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save your questions to the end i would

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ask though if if you're really unclear

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about what i'm saying or feel like you

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don't understand feel free to ask you

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know stop me and ask for clarification

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so really to look at gmos you want to

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there are other companies that

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and distribute and develop gmos

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bear syngenta dow chemical and there's a

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couple others but you really need to

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look at monsanto because i believe

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and i'm not a facts and figures kind of

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guy but it's something like

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gmo seeds and that's mostly what's

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is affected when we talk about gmos

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genetically modified organisms

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are sold

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scientific medical research

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whole nother thing we're going to be

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sticking to the agricultural part of it

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and that brings us right to monsanto

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monsanto um which started out as a

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chemical country at the beginning of the

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hazardous products including but not

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limited to dioxins ddt agent orange

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so they've been at this a long time they

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started out make with a lot of military

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chemicals for weapons among other things

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of their pcbs

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pcbs were actually

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invented by swan chemical in the 20s

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we've brought these wonderful products

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but in fact they often buy up other

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companies that have developed the

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products and so it was with pcbs

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generators and as so many of these

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products are are when they're first

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miracle uh electricity of course was

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situation the pcbs were this wonder

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the thing is though they're dangerous

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they cause oh all sorts of uh damage to

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chromosome damage you name it this is a

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really really toxic chemical as we found

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the 70s when it was you know finally let

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dangerous to human health these things

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where uh workers were exposed to it they

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reaction they developed all these

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illnesses right you know right away and

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down the road scientific tests were done

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dangerous chemical yet they continued to

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produce pcbs right up until i believe it

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they polluted several communities where

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they were produced including anniston

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things are everywhere because electric

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transformers and generators are

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everywhere but these places uh became so

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with pcbs people had severe health

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problems especially children who are

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1997 they formed the citizens against

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pollution this was a

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monsanto they had to fight the court

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almost 10 years because monsanto has

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deep pockets for legal expenses so they

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fought him even though they knew that

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they had poisoned those people but

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people finally prevailed they prevailed

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millions against monsanto so jay

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illinois some of you might be familiar

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plant it's still open to the state it

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doesn't make pcbs anymore but the soil

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problem and they put it in the water and

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compound a new modern miracle which was

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roundup made them a lot of money as a

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herbicide you might see people spraying

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the problem is is that it's not safe i

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you inhale it is where it does its most

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damage parkinson's disease there's a

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long litany of things

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know respiratory diseases can come from

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this stuff please be safe if you must

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so anyway the roundup though was the

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patent was expiring so monsanto had this

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idea they were going to reinvent

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themselves they were no longer going to

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be a chemical a chemical company they

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were going to be a life sciences company

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they're going to switch from these dirty

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chemicals and then make uh you know

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transition started way before that they

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solutia now does all the chemical things

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uh really what they were doing though

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when they created solution was spinning

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off liability in other words hey we're

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not them anymore we're clean you know

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we're monster we're doing these gmos

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we're out to help farmers and feed the

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world or so they said so that is the

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background uh don't believe the feed the

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world uh and help farmers thing as we

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making money by what they've been doing

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for a while foisting unsafe

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environmentally dangerous chemicals on

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the public and and might i add totally

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dominating the market smashing

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competitors and so on

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of gmo and i'm not going to read much

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paragraph because um genetically

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modified organisms it was used to be

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genetic material or dna

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is taken from the cells of virtually any

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plant animal or microorganism

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usually the genes

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that are believed to encode a distinct

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biological function

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and they can be isolated in the

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laboratory and artificially inserted

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into the chromosomes of another often

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unrelated organism

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first the plant and animal genes were

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inserted into bacteria and the mass

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cloning of these genetically altered

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bacteria made it possible to produce

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large quantities of

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substances such as the bovine growth

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hormone and human insulin

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more recently bacteria and viruses that

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naturally infect living cells

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have been loaded up with particular

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agents into an organism's dna

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today in many cases

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foreign genes are injected directly

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using so-called gene guns yes gene guns

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which are microscopic pellets of gold or

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tungsten to insert foreign genes at

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essentially random locations in the

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host's chromosomes

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since the success rate of gene transfers

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by any of these

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methods is usually exceedingly low

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marker genes for antibiotic resistance

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herbicide tolerance or other easily

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testable traits are included making it

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possible for scientists or manufacturers

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to randomly select only those cells that

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successfully incorporate the foreign or

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also called recombinant dna so in other

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words they're taking genes from like

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let's look at the flavor saver tomato a

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fish from a gene

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is inserted into a tomato

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to so that it becomes frost resistant so

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that they could

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grow tomatoes later into the season

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now the gmo they'll tell you oh

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hybridization and genetic manipulation

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have been going on for years i mean

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farmers have hybridized cop this is

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nothing new

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oh really so

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farmers for years have been putting fish

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genes into

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you know

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tomatoes or other plant organisms in

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other words

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when has the

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genes from bacteria been put directly

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into a plant this is a lie this is not

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so this is something totally new and

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unprecedented

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uh and potentially very dangerous now

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um the main the main crops that are

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genetically uh modified are

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and almost exclusively to most most

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seeds are not genetically modified but

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corn soy cotton canola and sugar beets

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are the most common

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gmo seeds

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sugar beets that that's right so now um

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uh they're switching away from what's

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that

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okay corn

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soy

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cotton

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canola

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and sugar beets

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so um

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the thing is they're switching away a

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lot of processed food from um

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cane sugar to the sugar beets which and

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i'll explain why in a second uh so if it

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doesn't say cane sugar on your package

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it's probably sugar beets these days and

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could contain gmos

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uh there's two main traits that they put

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into um the gmo seeds one

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is

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herbicide tolerance

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in other words

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tolerant of glyphosate or roundup

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uh if you know about farming has anyone

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ever done any farming or okay so we got

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a few so if you know about farming um

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modern farming after the green

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revolution became that instead of

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digging up the weeds

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uh you go out to your field and you

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spray the roundup on it and kill all the

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weeds you burn it down right then you

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plant your crop and it suppresses the

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weeds for a while and then um

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as the soy for example uh grows um well

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you can't spray the roundup on it then

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because it would kill your soy crop so

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you have to do it

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uh by hand or with the machine and such

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it's it's a very labor intensive thing

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uh there's other techniques that farmers

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have used but that's essentially it

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with the roundup ready crop

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well what happens is that the farmer can

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now spray the roundup as the

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soy is growing

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and it kills the weeds but not the

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roundup another modern miracle you know

401
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hmm yes wonderful now i talked to

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farmers um

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uh in the um

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you know late um 20th century and early

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you know 10 or 10 12

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15 years ago and some farmers were truly

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gung-ho i had this one farmer tell me i

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love this stuff you know how much work

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this saves me from weeding you know it's

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it's a big thing as you can imagine

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and uh

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they loved it so but anyway we'll get to

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the problems um

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later uh the other main trait in um

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with gmo crops is

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an insecticide that's put in there it's

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called bt

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bacillus thurin

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thuringiensis or bt

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and that is an

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insecticide it was used by organic

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farmers and other farmers it's something

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that they would when there was a bug

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problem they would throw it on the crop

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sparingly and the insects would eat it

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and die and then of course the rain

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would wash it away it was a somewhat

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benign insecticide but i might remind

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you that

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uh there's no such thing as a safe

431
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poison don't ever believe that poison is

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poison folks

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there's poisons that are less toxic true

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enough but don't buy into the it's it's

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safe

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so anyway uh what they did is they

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they from the bacteria of bt they were

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able to take the gene out of there and

439
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put it into corn for example

440
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you know with the gene gun

441
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and then as the plant grew uh the pests

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would get on the corn rootworm was the

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big problem

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root worm as they eat the roots

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die now because there's

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in every cell of that plant there is the

447
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bt

448
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uh you can see the obvious problem

449
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because in every cell of that corn plant

450
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is the bt site means when you eat the

451
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corn you are eating it too

452
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of course monsanto claims that it's safe

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but let's look at these two drops oh and

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i i might add at this point

455
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their intent of

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you know yield increases less chemicals

457
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it's good for the environment they were

458
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never interested that

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feeding the world

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there they were interested in these

461
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things uh for farmers you know to

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increase uh their sales of their seeds

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uh

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so the problem is all right so right

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away

466
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15 years ago i talked to

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scientists experts like brian tokar and

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this is what they told me because of the

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fact that there's so much of these genes

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in the corn plant in the soy and those

471
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were the first two big ones corn and soy

472
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uh i might tell you that uh

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90

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or more of the corn and soy grown in

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this country are genetically modified if

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it doesn't say organic

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if it doesn't say

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gmo certified

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certified gmo free it probably has gmos

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in it if it has and the thing is

481
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processed foods you think well i don't

482
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need a lot of corn or soy

483
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look at processed foods that you bought

484
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super want corn soy and virtually every

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product

486
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these uh these these uh the gmo corn and

487
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soy and others are ubiquitous um

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so

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um

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the pro so what brian tocar said is

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because it's in every gene

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the weeds will become resistant very

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quickly weeds always become resistant to

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herbicides it's just a matter of time

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we know this from the beginning of the

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green revolution after the 40s of course

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the time when they started using massive

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amount of chemicals on our crops

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and also we also know that bugs will

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always over time

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get resistance to

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pesticides we know this because

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eventually as you know how it works if

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you farm and some of the bugs survive

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and then they reproduce and then their

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offspring have the resistance

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well

508
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it's happened already it's already here

509
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there are superweeds they call them it's

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glyphosate tolerant

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they're having to switch glyphosate is

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becoming useless in agricultural

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applications just as many of critics of

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gmo said

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so what are they doing these people that

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promise us less chemicals they're

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switching back to more dangerous

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chemicals

519
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2 4-d

520
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is one which is part of dioxin is now

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being used

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decambra another powerful

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herbicide is now being used again they

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were trying to phase these out but what

525
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can so now we have more use of more

526
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dangerous chemicals it's the same story

527
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with the bugs they are becoming

528
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resistant to bt

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so the organic or small farmer that used

530
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to use it sprinkle it on their crops

531
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uh you know as a way you know sparingly

532
00:21:48,149 --> 00:21:46,159
doesn't work anymore

533
00:21:49,909 --> 00:21:48,159
and the bt crops are used so now what do

534
00:21:52,549 --> 00:21:49,919
you think farmers are having to do

535
00:21:53,590 --> 00:21:52,559
spraying those old dangerous pesticides

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on there

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so

538
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the first and biggest problem with gmos

539
00:22:04,710 --> 00:22:01,760
is they don't work in the long run

540
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if i give you something that works today

541
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but doesn't tomorrow what good is that

542
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this is what's happened with bt crops

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as i said uh

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90

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country in the rest of the world it's a

546
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different story some countries very much

547
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so some uh like the europeans have

548
00:22:34,789 --> 00:22:32,480
banned certain gmos um italy i think

549
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a lot of them are banning the bt corn

550
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that one is you know mexico has always

551
00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:39,679
banned it

552
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but the thing is these seeds get around

553
00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:44,159
in other words if you buy

554
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if you ship

555
00:22:48,789 --> 00:22:46,960
of course the corn and soy is shipped

556
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all over the world so if you sell

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something for food

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00:22:55,510 --> 00:22:53,440
some can take it and plant it uh it's

559
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that's a problem another problem with

560
00:23:00,149 --> 00:22:57,840
gmo crops it's like once the genie is

561
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out of the bottle it can't be brought

562
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back in

563
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how do they get such

564
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unbelievable market share

565
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uh well one of the things is is that

566
00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:11,600
when they sold solution when they spun

567
00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:13,840
off solution of course they had buyers

568
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um you know they sold stock they took

569
00:23:19,669 --> 00:23:17,600
all that money and started buying seed

570
00:23:22,950 --> 00:23:19,679
companies so a lot of the big seed

571
00:23:25,430 --> 00:23:22,960
companies were bought up by monsanto

572
00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:25,440
monsanto i believe it's again i'm not a

573
00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:27,120
fax and figures guy

574
00:23:30,230 --> 00:23:28,320
60

575
00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:30,240
of seeds something like that don't quote

576
00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:32,960
me some huge share of seeds that are

577
00:23:38,789 --> 00:23:36,240
bought now are sold by monsanto it's

578
00:23:41,270 --> 00:23:38,799
monopolization of the market and this is

579
00:23:42,789 --> 00:23:41,280
another controversy they

580
00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:42,799
they patent

581
00:23:47,430 --> 00:23:44,960
uh life forms

582
00:23:49,430 --> 00:23:47,440
well uh the precedent was always that

583
00:23:51,909 --> 00:23:49,440
you shouldn't like you know okay so

584
00:23:55,510 --> 00:23:51,919
capitalism it's all about uh property

585
00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:55,520
ownership right i mean i own my company

586
00:24:01,350 --> 00:23:59,039
i own my house i own my car i you know

587
00:24:03,190 --> 00:24:01,360
you know business

588
00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:03,200
but the precedent was you well you can't

589
00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:06,320
own a life form uh for example slavery

590
00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:08,400
was ended you know the idea of slavery

591
00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:11,840
was that hey you can own a person you

592
00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:12,640
know

593
00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:14,880
you can own a dog but

594
00:24:18,789 --> 00:24:17,120
if you have a shelter you don't own all

595
00:24:22,630 --> 00:24:18,799
shelties

596
00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:22,640
with patenting of corn and soy they own

597
00:24:26,789 --> 00:24:25,760
all of that variety of like the bt corn

598
00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:26,799
all that's

599
00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:28,480
you know owned by them

600
00:24:32,549 --> 00:24:30,080
uh well you say well you know other

601
00:24:34,470 --> 00:24:32,559
people can grow corn but no farmers are

602
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:34,480
telling me it's harder and harder to

603
00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:36,240
find traditional varieties because

604
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:38,240
monsanto owns those companies so they're

605
00:24:42,870 --> 00:24:40,320
withdrawing traditional varieties of

606
00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:42,880
corn they want you to buy the seeds and

607
00:24:47,590 --> 00:24:45,120
guess what when the farmer buys the seed

608
00:24:50,310 --> 00:24:47,600
he has to sign a technology agreement

609
00:24:53,430 --> 00:24:50,320
this technology agreement says that you

610
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:53,440
are under our control for five years or

611
00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:56,240
longer you may not replant your own

612
00:25:01,669 --> 00:24:57,600
seeds

613
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:01,679
agriculture is all about originally

614
00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:03,679
you would you know save some of your

615
00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:06,480
crop and collect the seeds and then

616
00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:08,720
replant the next year

617
00:25:13,110 --> 00:25:11,120
biotech seeds you can't do that and they

618
00:25:16,230 --> 00:25:13,120
watch oh do they watch they have

619
00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:16,240
prosecuted farmers over that the

620
00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:18,000
of course the

621
00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:20,960
another problem is that

622
00:25:27,190 --> 00:25:24,240
you have to pay a technology fee so this

623
00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:27,200
is another cost to farmers

624
00:25:32,710 --> 00:25:30,320
you have to use their chemicals as a

625
00:25:35,350 --> 00:25:32,720
matter of fact uh

626
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:35,360
roundup ready uh soy for example you can

627
00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:37,200
only use roundup it won't work with

628
00:25:41,830 --> 00:25:39,200
other they've lost the patent so that

629
00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:41,840
like the chinese are making generic

630
00:25:47,430 --> 00:25:45,279
glyphosate you know but it won't work

631
00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:47,440
with the roundup ready crops and even if

632
00:25:52,870 --> 00:25:49,840
it did monsanto is yes they are out in

633
00:25:54,310 --> 00:25:52,880
those fields checking and doing testing

634
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:54,320
um

635
00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:57,360
the price of corn and soy seeds

636
00:26:01,830 --> 00:25:59,919
especially has skyrocketed

637
00:26:04,149 --> 00:26:01,840
this is putting intense pressure on

638
00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:04,159
farmers this is one of the reasons we're

639
00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:07,039
seeing less and less farmers it's just

640
00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:09,120
getting harder and harder

641
00:26:13,590 --> 00:26:11,600
with the increased use of chemicals it's

642
00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:13,600
not only more expensive it's more

643
00:26:18,390 --> 00:26:16,000
dangerous to your health i believe a

644
00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:18,400
hundred years ago more than 50 percent

645
00:26:22,950 --> 00:26:20,480
of the people in this country live to

646
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:22,960
work on a farm i was told recently that

647
00:26:29,029 --> 00:26:25,840
is down to three percent so what this is

648
00:26:31,269 --> 00:26:29,039
happening here you can see is that it's

649
00:26:32,149 --> 00:26:31,279
all being controlled

650
00:26:35,430 --> 00:26:32,159
uh

651
00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:35,440
by a small cadre of companies especially

652
00:26:39,669 --> 00:26:36,880
monsanto

653
00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:39,679
and right there to me that shows do do i

654
00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:41,520
trust monsanto this company with this

655
00:26:45,909 --> 00:26:43,440
horrific record

656
00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:48,710
in other countries there's been

657
00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:51,120
unbelievable problems uh first example

658
00:26:55,029 --> 00:26:53,440
the cotton the cotton is did i list that

659
00:26:56,870 --> 00:26:55,039
on one of the five that is one of the

660
00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:56,880
five big ones yeah

661
00:27:01,430 --> 00:26:58,559
cotton okay so

662
00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:01,440
there was spectacular failure with the

663
00:27:05,669 --> 00:27:04,400
gmo cotton crops this is roundup ready

664
00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:05,679
cotton

665
00:27:09,830 --> 00:27:07,760
glyphosate resistant the first years

666
00:27:11,909 --> 00:27:09,840
they did it

667
00:27:14,310 --> 00:27:11,919
the cotton bowls just dropped off the

668
00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:14,320
plants and dried up

669
00:27:19,350 --> 00:27:16,960
big terror in india which is a big

670
00:27:21,830 --> 00:27:19,360
cotton producer

671
00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:21,840
again they had these failures put a lot

672
00:27:26,310 --> 00:27:23,279
of you know they paid they had to pay

673
00:27:28,789 --> 00:27:26,320
some recompense to people but a lot of

674
00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:28,799
farmers suffered because of it because

675
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:30,559
you know their whole crop is gone that's

676
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:31,840
the thing about farmers telling me

677
00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:35,279
imagine if you had a company where you

678
00:27:39,430 --> 00:27:37,600
made a product and you only sold it one

679
00:27:41,750 --> 00:27:39,440
time during the year and that was all

680
00:27:42,789 --> 00:27:41,760
your sales they say

681
00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:42,799
um

682
00:27:46,390 --> 00:27:44,640
there's lots of other issues facing

683
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:46,400
farmers by the way i'm not going to get

684
00:27:51,669 --> 00:27:48,720
into that but you know but

685
00:27:53,029 --> 00:27:51,679
anyway let's focus on this so in india

686
00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:53,039
these farmers

687
00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:55,039
again because of economic pressures and

688
00:28:00,549 --> 00:27:57,360
there's a lot of small farmers planted

689
00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:00,559
the cotton seeds there were failures

690
00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:03,520
the expense ate them up and they can't

691
00:28:08,389 --> 00:28:05,360
switch back remember you're under a

692
00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:08,399
five-year contract with monsanto and if

693
00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:10,240
you after those five years decide i'm

694
00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:12,159
going back to the others they still have

695
00:28:16,149 --> 00:28:13,840
the right to go into your fields and

696
00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:16,159
test for gmos to see that you're not

697
00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:18,960
saving seeds or sealing seeds

698
00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:21,600
it drove a lot of farmers out of

699
00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:24,080
business in india there's a cultural

700
00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:27,840
thing to become to be a farmer who is

701
00:28:32,789 --> 00:28:30,480
economically unsuccessful is a public

702
00:28:36,789 --> 00:28:32,799
embarrassment there was this rash of

703
00:28:39,029 --> 00:28:36,799
suicides on of of in farmers in um

704
00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:39,039
central india i forget the state but

705
00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:41,039
anyway where farmers were killing

706
00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:42,480
themselves

707
00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:44,799
they would actually drink some a lot of

708
00:28:50,470 --> 00:28:48,080
them the roundup uh to kill themselves

709
00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:50,480
just as almost a sign that this is what

710
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:53,440
did it to me um this caused that's in

711
00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:57,120
central india to ban gmo cotton another

712
00:29:02,389 --> 00:28:59,840
country that's banded so isn't it funny

713
00:29:05,350 --> 00:29:02,399
when they you know you might hear the uh

714
00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:05,360
monsanto hacks saying oh

715
00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:08,000
they don't know their science they don't

716
00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:09,520
you know they're saying gmos are

717
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:12,000
dangerous and the science is against

718
00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:14,880
them well why have 50 countries uh

719
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:16,799
required labeling why have so many

720
00:29:22,310 --> 00:29:20,320
countries banned uh gmos you know they

721
00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:22,320
must know something

722
00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:24,720
excuse me is italy or india are they

723
00:29:29,590 --> 00:29:27,600
like radical anti-capitalists i don't

724
00:29:32,950 --> 00:29:29,600
think so they're all about you know

725
00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:32,960
economy just like us

726
00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:34,720
so just on the face of it we can see

727
00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:36,240
that's a lie

728
00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:39,360
as far as american farmers or we'll say

729
00:29:47,750 --> 00:29:45,990
they have really gone after farmers

730
00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:47,760
they've really and because they're

731
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:49,760
trying to pressure them into using the

732
00:29:53,029 --> 00:29:50,799
seed

733
00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:53,039
the problem another problem with gmos is

734
00:29:58,389 --> 00:29:55,679
that with cotton and

735
00:30:01,909 --> 00:29:58,399
soy you have pollen drift of course the

736
00:30:04,389 --> 00:30:01,919
pollen can go for miles for miles

737
00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:04,399
and that pollen can drift into your

738
00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:05,840
neighbors like from you say you're

739
00:30:09,669 --> 00:30:07,200
growing canola

740
00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:09,679
and especially canola it can drift by

741
00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:13,200
the wind into your neighbor's field now

742
00:30:19,350 --> 00:30:13,919
or

743
00:30:21,590 --> 00:30:19,360
been contaminated by gmos so if i am an

744
00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:21,600
organic farmer that means i can't sell

745
00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:24,399
it at all because organic legally means

746
00:30:28,630 --> 00:30:26,000
no gmos

747
00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:28,640
so right away it's hurting those farmers

748
00:30:31,990 --> 00:30:30,799
but there's more to it than that

749
00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:32,000
now

750
00:30:37,909 --> 00:30:34,720
monsanto can enter your field

751
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:37,919
test find gmos and say you're illegally

752
00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:40,240
using our patented seeds

753
00:30:44,149 --> 00:30:42,240
they'll usually the farmers get a letter

754
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:44,159
saying you owe us

755
00:30:49,269 --> 00:30:46,480
you know fifteen thirty thousand dollars

756
00:30:52,549 --> 00:30:49,279
in technology fees for really using it

757
00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:52,559
this is not speculative percy schmeiser

758
00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:53,840
is a

759
00:30:59,669 --> 00:30:57,360
he lives in saskatchewan a big canola

760
00:31:03,029 --> 00:30:59,679
country he's a seed developer using

761
00:31:06,070 --> 00:31:03,039
hybridization he developed canola canola

762
00:31:07,750 --> 00:31:06,080
is actually rapeseed they uh using

763
00:31:10,789 --> 00:31:07,760
traditional breeding methods they

764
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:10,799
lowered the uricic acid making it quite

765
00:31:16,389 --> 00:31:14,240
tasty and so canola is means canadian

766
00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:16,399
oil that's how it was created there was

767
00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:18,880
yeah that's how we have canola

768
00:31:22,950 --> 00:31:20,559
yeah and it was great because you see

769
00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:22,960
how much canola is is used

770
00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:25,600
well what happened

771
00:31:29,830 --> 00:31:27,200
uh so

772
00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:29,840
uh pollen we don't know exactly how got

773
00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:31,200
into his field could have been pollen

774
00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:32,720
drift could have been the trucks from

775
00:31:36,950 --> 00:31:34,640
his neighbors and pollen whatever

776
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:36,960
monsanto goes into his field they find

777
00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:39,360
his gmos they say

778
00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:41,200
you know the letter you owe us thirty

779
00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:44,320
thousand dollars schmeizer is a proud

780
00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:46,640
man he's you know he's been in politics

781
00:31:50,549 --> 00:31:48,480
and he he said no

782
00:31:53,029 --> 00:31:50,559
and he fought a legal battle against

783
00:31:55,350 --> 00:31:53,039
them it went all the way to the canadian

784
00:31:56,710 --> 00:31:55,360
supreme court we were hoping that the

785
00:31:58,710 --> 00:31:56,720
court would say

786
00:32:01,350 --> 00:31:58,720
throw out the whole idea of patenting

787
00:32:03,190 --> 00:32:01,360
life forms which is just plain wrong for

788
00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:03,200
so many reasons

789
00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:04,080
but

790
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:06,159
uh it was a sort of half and half

791
00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:08,000
victory they didn't throw out patents as

792
00:32:10,870 --> 00:32:09,919
mafic they affirmed patents but they

793
00:32:13,190 --> 00:32:10,880
said

794
00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:13,200
percy schmeiser did not have to pay the

795
00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:16,320
technology fees by monsanto however he

796
00:32:20,310 --> 00:32:18,640
had spent

797
00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:20,320
half a million to three-quarters of a

798
00:32:26,470 --> 00:32:23,440
million in legal expenses a lot of it

799
00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:26,480
was raised through him just touring i he

800
00:32:29,509 --> 00:32:28,000
came to st louis several times i had the

801
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:29,519
opportunity to meet him and talk with

802
00:32:33,269 --> 00:32:30,559
him

803
00:32:35,430 --> 00:32:33,279
he said i'm a seed developer why i knew

804
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:35,440
about those seeds i don't want them i

805
00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:37,440
you know i know how to grow canola and i

806
00:32:41,269 --> 00:32:39,360
don't need it i never liked the idea

807
00:32:43,669 --> 00:32:41,279
monsanto go to their website they'll say

808
00:32:46,549 --> 00:32:43,679
oh yeah his fields had all this gmos he

809
00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:46,559
had to have been stealing seeds all lies

810
00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:48,720
and it's been verified but this is

811
00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:51,120
what's happened you bowman another uh

812
00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:53,760
case what he did is he went to a grain

813
00:32:57,909 --> 00:32:54,880
elevator

814
00:33:00,549 --> 00:32:57,919
uh that had soy in it and we all know

815
00:33:02,230 --> 00:33:00,559
what a grain elevator right is yeah just

816
00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:02,240
some audiences you know

817
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:04,000
i didn't grow up on a farm i had to

818
00:33:08,870 --> 00:33:06,240
learn all this stuff so he goes the

819
00:33:11,029 --> 00:33:08,880
grain elevator and he buys a bunch of

820
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:11,039
the soy there well guess what of course

821
00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:12,640
since 90

822
00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:15,120
plus of all soy is genetically modified

823
00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:17,440
he knew that hey these seeds you know

824
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:19,360
they're going to be genetically i can

825
00:33:23,669 --> 00:33:22,000
just use them and then i can have the

826
00:33:26,630 --> 00:33:23,679
roundup ready or the glyphosate

827
00:33:29,110 --> 00:33:26,640
resistant trait in there uh he did it

828
00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:29,120
rather blatantly i think you know but

829
00:33:34,389 --> 00:33:32,480
maybe he did it as a a way to you know

830
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:34,399
uh encourage farmers to stand up to

831
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:36,960
monsanto well they took him the court

832
00:33:42,549 --> 00:33:40,000
too and he lost they said even though he

833
00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:42,559
bought that product secondarily the

834
00:33:47,269 --> 00:33:44,960
patent still applies to him this of

835
00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:47,279
course shows you the control they have

836
00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:50,159
now the pollen and the genes are getting

837
00:33:55,029 --> 00:33:52,559
everywhere just like their dirty pcbs

838
00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:55,039
got everywhere and made so many people

839
00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:56,880
sick

840
00:34:00,870 --> 00:33:58,880
you know there's probably pcbs by the

841
00:34:03,830 --> 00:34:00,880
way in every one of us trace amounts i

842
00:34:06,389 --> 00:34:03,840
would hope but anyway

843
00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:06,399
that so this extended the power of their

844
00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:07,600
patents

845
00:34:13,589 --> 00:34:10,879
and again as i say traditional varieties

846
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:13,599
uh are are disappearing and we have the

847
00:34:18,149 --> 00:34:16,079
problem of mono cropping not to get into

848
00:34:20,869 --> 00:34:18,159
that too much but mono cropping is where

849
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:20,879
you have a huge field of one crop it

850
00:34:26,790 --> 00:34:24,240
invites insects viruses pests because

851
00:34:29,430 --> 00:34:26,800
there's one that's not natural at all

852
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:31,190
so anyway

853
00:34:35,829 --> 00:34:32,800
but he you know going back to bowman

854
00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:35,839
yeah he he lost that case and uh

855
00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:38,159
now monsanto will claim you know that oh

856
00:34:43,430 --> 00:34:41,280
we don't bully farmers there's only been

857
00:34:45,990 --> 00:34:43,440
several hundred farmers that we've you

858
00:34:48,069 --> 00:34:46,000
know taken court like this you know it's

859
00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:48,079
not like this

860
00:34:50,950 --> 00:34:49,919
well guess what

861
00:34:54,069 --> 00:34:50,960
say

862
00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:54,079
on your farm you see your neighbor being

863
00:34:58,150 --> 00:34:56,240
you know having to spend so much time

864
00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:58,160
again bowman's case went to the supreme

865
00:35:02,710 --> 00:35:00,480
court you can imagine the cost and legal

866
00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:02,720
fees you can imagine the heartache percy

867
00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:04,880
schmeiser who i talked to talked about

868
00:35:10,630 --> 00:35:07,599
how the strain it put on his family that

869
00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:10,640
raised that money he had a tour you know

870
00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:13,040
and most farmers are like they live in

871
00:35:17,109 --> 00:35:14,400
the country because they just want to be

872
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:17,119
left alone they don't want this it's

873
00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:20,320
like the thug only has to harass one

874
00:35:24,390 --> 00:35:22,400
person on your block to make everyone

875
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:24,400
else fall in line right

876
00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:25,200
so

877
00:35:29,349 --> 00:35:27,119
they don't have to harass every farmer

878
00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:29,359
the farmers get the message and if you

879
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:31,200
talk to farmers

880
00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:33,599
you know off the record a lot of them

881
00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:35,680
will tell you well you know they might

882
00:35:40,710 --> 00:35:38,000
like the product or they did when they

883
00:35:42,069 --> 00:35:40,720
work the gmo seeds but

884
00:35:44,069 --> 00:35:42,079
they don't particularly like monster

885
00:35:46,710 --> 00:35:44,079
they don't like signing contracts they

886
00:35:49,109 --> 00:35:46,720
don't like signing five years uh

887
00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:49,119
technology agreements they don't like

888
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:51,040
the idea that monsanto the part of this

889
00:35:53,589 --> 00:35:52,160
contract

890
00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:53,599
with monsanto says they can come into

891
00:35:57,750 --> 00:35:56,400
your field anytime to inspect

892
00:35:58,390 --> 00:35:57,760
you know

893
00:36:02,630 --> 00:35:58,400
so

894
00:36:05,670 --> 00:36:02,640
um yes monsanto bullying farmers um we

895
00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:05,680
talked about the cotton failures and um

896
00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:07,200
in india

897
00:36:13,030 --> 00:36:10,720
it's a little bit oh latin america um oh

898
00:36:15,670 --> 00:36:13,040
my goodness the alta plano and that's uh

899
00:36:18,550 --> 00:36:15,680
the high plains in um

900
00:36:21,589 --> 00:36:18,560
uh brazil and others right there up in

901
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:21,599
the mountains it's become a desert of

902
00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:25,200
gmo soy they have they have taken land

903
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:27,520
away from small farmers and indigenous

904
00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:30,000
peoples forced them off the land so that

905
00:36:35,750 --> 00:36:32,400
they can pres they uh they are saying

906
00:36:38,069 --> 00:36:35,760
that in some parts you can stand at a

907
00:36:39,589 --> 00:36:38,079
point a high point and see nothing but

908
00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:39,599
corn

909
00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:41,680
you know anything about agriculture this

910
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:44,480
is asking for a disaster mono cropping

911
00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:47,040
is not good for the environment it

912
00:36:57,270 --> 00:36:48,240
invites

913
00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:57,280
those things that hurt crops

914
00:37:00,950 --> 00:36:59,040
if you want to know more about this very

915
00:37:03,349 --> 00:37:00,960
excellent book by this french woman

916
00:37:06,310 --> 00:37:03,359
marie monique robin the world according

917
00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:06,320
to monsanto she really talks about the

918
00:37:11,589 --> 00:37:09,280
central american situation plus monsanto

919
00:37:13,910 --> 00:37:11,599
sorted past this is the best source in

920
00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:13,920
one place that i could find there's also

921
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:16,400
a video she made which we have available

922
00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:18,160
i don't have with me if anyone's or if

923
00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:20,880
you as a group or individuals want it we

924
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:23,599
can get you copies of the video we have

925
00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:25,200
multiple copies it's called the world

926
00:37:28,950 --> 00:37:27,200
according to monsanto

927
00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:28,960
all right

928
00:37:34,630 --> 00:37:31,680
i saved let's see i think the best for

929
00:37:37,270 --> 00:37:34,640
last and that is human health

930
00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:37,280
i think of course people are wonder

931
00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:39,119
ultimately what does it do to me and my

932
00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:40,480
kids

933
00:37:43,670 --> 00:37:41,359
all right

934
00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:43,680
well

935
00:37:49,270 --> 00:37:46,880
montana got a patent on this now to get

936
00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:49,280
the patent wasn't it adequately tested

937
00:37:53,589 --> 00:37:50,640
for safety

938
00:37:56,390 --> 00:37:53,599
the answer is not at all

939
00:37:58,550 --> 00:37:56,400
you see michael taylor who is an ex

940
00:38:02,069 --> 00:37:58,560
monsanto employee

941
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:02,079
works as the fda food safety czar

942
00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:04,640
and in the 90s michael taylor

943
00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:08,000
who is still in the fda in this position

944
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:10,000
he decreed

945
00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:13,680
gmo crops are substantially equivalent

946
00:38:17,829 --> 00:38:15,520
to standard crops

947
00:38:20,470 --> 00:38:17,839
in other words they're the same we don't

948
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:20,480
need to test them so the industry did

949
00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:22,560
some tests nine week

950
00:38:27,510 --> 00:38:25,119
you know nothing studies oh yeah we did

951
00:38:31,349 --> 00:38:27,520
test it's safe everything's fine

952
00:38:33,670 --> 00:38:31,359
this is duplicitous to say the least

953
00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:33,680
how can they say that it's substantially

954
00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:36,320
equivalent and yet award a patent

955
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:38,320
patents are awarded because you have

956
00:38:42,870 --> 00:38:40,960
something that is unique novel never

957
00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:42,880
been done before

958
00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:45,440
how is it that monsanto can get a patent

959
00:38:47,829 --> 00:38:46,880
on something that's a substantial

960
00:38:50,069 --> 00:38:47,839
equipment

961
00:38:53,109 --> 00:38:50,079
substantially equivalent

962
00:38:54,950 --> 00:38:53,119
they get it both ways

963
00:38:56,950 --> 00:38:54,960
clarence thomas

964
00:38:58,310 --> 00:38:56,960
ex-monsanto employee

965
00:39:00,150 --> 00:38:58,320
and venomon

966
00:39:02,150 --> 00:39:00,160
ex used to be the secretary of

967
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:02,160
agriculture i forget under who

968
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:04,320
ex-monsanto employee

969
00:39:08,550 --> 00:39:06,240
there is a revolving door i could give

970
00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:08,560
you a lot go on websites we can direct

971
00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:10,720
it to

972
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:14,400
a revolving door between regulators and

973
00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:15,760
monsanto

974
00:39:19,990 --> 00:39:18,560
they contribute heavily to political

975
00:39:21,829 --> 00:39:20,000
campaigns

976
00:39:24,150 --> 00:39:21,839
especially in this state as you can

977
00:39:25,349 --> 00:39:24,160
imagine they've got

978
00:39:28,550 --> 00:39:25,359
the courts

979
00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:28,560
they've got the legislative and they've

980
00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:32,079
got uh executive all in their pocket you

981
00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:36,160
know i there's lots of other examples so

982
00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:38,960
um there have been independent tests the

983
00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:40,320
most uh the

984
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:42,880
most famous ones were our pod pushdai he

985
00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:45,280
was from the rohit institute in scotland

986
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:47,280
he was not uh

987
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:49,680
this guy is anything but like a hippie

988
00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:51,440
activist or anything like that he was

989
00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:53,280
the most one of the most respected

990
00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:55,680
scientists he thought they were fine he

991
00:40:01,349 --> 00:39:58,800
did a good test on gmo potatoes

992
00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:01,359
rats developed tumors

993
00:40:08,950 --> 00:40:04,480
you know all sorts of um low low weight

994
00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:08,960
premature deaths uh premature births um

995
00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:10,800
all these health problems

996
00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:12,480
he tried you know before he had a chance

997
00:40:15,430 --> 00:40:14,160
to publish the study he talked about it

998
00:40:19,190 --> 00:40:15,440
on tv

999
00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:19,200
um they accused him of bad science and

1000
00:40:25,030 --> 00:40:22,000
suppressed the study denied it uh

1001
00:40:27,990 --> 00:40:25,040
he was fired from his job uh his his

1002
00:40:29,270 --> 00:40:28,000
study was later peer reviewed and

1003
00:40:32,470 --> 00:40:29,280
you know the scientific community

1004
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:32,480
sounded a very good test um

1005
00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:33,280
uh

1006
00:40:41,109 --> 00:40:36,240
irena ermakova of russia is also had

1007
00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:43,510
however the latest study the one to look

1008
00:40:47,349 --> 00:40:44,800
at is the

1009
00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:47,359
cerellini study he's a frenchman you may

1010
00:40:51,190 --> 00:40:48,720
have heard about it it was in the news

1011
00:40:53,829 --> 00:40:51,200
and it should be still in the news

1012
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:53,839
this study is the center of the gmo

1013
00:41:00,950 --> 00:40:57,359
safety universe uh i think it's jill's

1014
00:41:04,230 --> 00:41:00,960
cerelini a frenchman and he did a study

1015
00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:04,240
and of course souza came out monsanto

1016
00:41:08,630 --> 00:41:06,640
about a year ago oh this is bad science

1017
00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:08,640
bad science well why did they say it was

1018
00:41:13,109 --> 00:41:10,480
bad science well

1019
00:41:15,190 --> 00:41:13,119
it was only done for two years he admits

1020
00:41:17,670 --> 00:41:15,200
himself that there are inconclusive

1021
00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:17,680
results in places oh and the rats he

1022
00:41:23,109 --> 00:41:20,880
used the rats he used they're prone to

1023
00:41:24,390 --> 00:41:23,119
tumors anyway

1024
00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:24,400
well guess what

1025
00:41:29,270 --> 00:41:26,800
the rats that monsantos used for their

1026
00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:29,280
study were the same rats

1027
00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:30,880
i've looked up i talked to scientists

1028
00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:32,960
say of course you use rats that are

1029
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:34,960
prone to tumors you want to see if they

1030
00:41:38,550 --> 00:41:36,560
show up

1031
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:38,560
these rats were filled with tumors by

1032
00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:40,400
the way i see you can see the pictures

1033
00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:42,720
online

1034
00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:44,160
as far as the

1035
00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:46,880
studies the only two years monsanto

1036
00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:49,200
studies were nine

1037
00:41:55,270 --> 00:41:52,480
nine weeks and guess what the rats

1038
00:41:57,990 --> 00:41:55,280
developed the health problems after nine

1039
00:42:01,990 --> 00:41:58,000
weeks the premature weights organ

1040
00:42:03,990 --> 00:42:02,000
internal organ damage leaky gut

1041
00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:04,000
in fact uh

1042
00:42:10,390 --> 00:42:06,880
you know and as far as inconclusive

1043
00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:10,400
well guess what most scientific studies

1044
00:42:15,910 --> 00:42:13,760
are inconclusive it's a lot you can't

1045
00:42:17,990 --> 00:42:15,920
you have to do repeated testing that's

1046
00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:18,000
if you really want to know

1047
00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:20,400
you have to do repeated testing so in a

1048
00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:22,960
good scientific world scientists would

1049
00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:24,960
have said and a lot did hey we need to

1050
00:42:29,910 --> 00:42:27,440
do more and long-term studies this this

1051
00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:29,920
is a red flag folks but of course

1052
00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:32,400
monsanto which is seeking put all their

1053
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:35,040
money and we're talking big money folks

1054
00:42:39,750 --> 00:42:37,440
we're talking really big not only big

1055
00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:39,760
money but international control this is

1056
00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:42,079
control of the world's food supply we're

1057
00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:44,319
talking about they are selling in every

1058
00:42:48,470 --> 00:42:46,720
every continent except antarctica you

1059
00:42:51,430 --> 00:42:48,480
know they've got sales where they're not

1060
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:51,440
banned um

1061
00:42:53,589 --> 00:42:52,160
so

1062
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:53,599
um

1063
00:42:57,270 --> 00:42:55,599
all right let's uh let me wrap up i

1064
00:42:59,430 --> 00:42:57,280
think i've thrown a lot at you and i'm

1065
00:43:02,309 --> 00:42:59,440
sure there'll be questions what can you

1066
00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:02,319
do about it all right one thing is is

1067
00:43:05,910 --> 00:43:03,839
that

1068
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:05,920
even though many countries 50 countries

1069
00:43:10,710 --> 00:43:08,079
and several state legislatures now have

1070
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:10,720
mandated labeling of gmos

1071
00:43:16,069 --> 00:43:12,880
monsanto has fought at tooth and nail

1072
00:43:18,470 --> 00:43:16,079
most famously in um washington oregon

1073
00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:18,480
i'm sorry in california where they and

1074
00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:20,640
the grocery manufacturers association

1075
00:43:24,950 --> 00:43:22,000
and other food groups are heavily

1076
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:24,960
invested in gmos uh put

1077
00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:26,800
tens of millions of dollars i forget

1078
00:43:29,829 --> 00:43:27,839
what they

1079
00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:29,839
against statement you know the states

1080
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:32,400
had on referendums and

1081
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:34,560
even though early polls showed that you

1082
00:43:39,510 --> 00:43:36,319
know 90 percent of people favored

1083
00:43:40,870 --> 00:43:39,520
labeling they put on these ads contests

1084
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:40,880
it'll you know

1085
00:43:45,589 --> 00:43:43,440
the agricultural industry in california

1086
00:43:48,069 --> 00:43:45,599
will be destroyed by this your food

1087
00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:48,079
prices will skyrocket and other such

1088
00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:49,440
lies

1089
00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:51,520
that they knew to be untrue

1090
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:54,480
uh so anyway most people are unaware

1091
00:43:59,349 --> 00:43:57,200
just how ubiquitous gmos are if unless

1092
00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:59,359
you're eating organic or being really

1093
00:44:02,470 --> 00:44:00,560
careful

1094
00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:02,480
you're eating gmos especially in

1095
00:44:06,950 --> 00:44:04,800
processed foods so we need to have

1096
00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:06,960
labeling is the first thing

1097
00:44:10,710 --> 00:44:08,960
um who should we be telling what you

1098
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:10,720
know we want labeling well you want your

1099
00:44:14,550 --> 00:44:13,200
legislators but i would say go to your

1100
00:44:19,030 --> 00:44:14,560
supermarket

1101
00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:19,040
i go into schnooks and they have a whole

1102
00:44:23,030 --> 00:44:21,599
organic line all these all these has an

1103
00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:23,040
organic line

1104
00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:24,720
because people have said we are

1105
00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:27,440
concerned about pesticides and chemicals

1106
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:30,079
in our food people are becoming

1107
00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:32,400
food conscious so talk to your

1108
00:44:38,630 --> 00:44:35,680
supermarket um about it talk to your

1109
00:44:40,710 --> 00:44:38,640
legislator uh we um

1110
00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:40,720
gmo free midwest

1111
00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:43,359
and join a national campaign to get uh

1112
00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:45,839
whole foods who is supposedly or but you

1113
00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:47,760
know a lot of their foods have gmos if

1114
00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:50,480
it doesn't say organic it could we had

1115
00:44:55,510 --> 00:44:52,319
you know we had demonstrations in front

1116
00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:55,520
we went inside the store uh we passed

1117
00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:59,119
out flyers and all this and well

1118
00:45:03,109 --> 00:45:00,720
so one day

1119
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:03,119
me and another member of gmo freemius we

1120
00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:04,720
had on the hazmat suits you know the

1121
00:45:08,950 --> 00:45:05,920
whole thing the white suit and

1122
00:45:12,309 --> 00:45:08,960
everything this and we go in there and

1123
00:45:16,069 --> 00:45:12,319
we say hey we're here and we're here to

1124
00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:16,079
inspect your food and see what has gmos

1125
00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:18,960
and this time they go oh that's fine as

1126
00:45:23,349 --> 00:45:21,760
long as you don't hand out literature

1127
00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:23,359
and we're like what

1128
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:25,760
yeah go ahead so we go in there and

1129
00:45:28,710 --> 00:45:27,440
people are coming up and saying what are

1130
00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:28,720
you here for and we could talk they

1131
00:45:32,069 --> 00:45:30,400
didn't say we were talking with people

1132
00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:32,079
oh let me have your pictures with them

1133
00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:33,680
and we would say i see this food and

1134
00:45:37,510 --> 00:45:35,760
this said it says sugar here but it

1135
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:37,520
doesn't say cane sugar so that means it

1136
00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:40,400
could be gmos it's not labeled you don't

1137
00:45:45,910 --> 00:45:43,040
know and they so we knew a change was

1138
00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:45,920
and in fact whole foods announced that

1139
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:50,800
they are going to phase out uh gmos um

1140
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:52,560
in all their foods over the next and

1141
00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:55,440
2018 i believe the date they will try to

1142
00:46:00,069 --> 00:45:57,680
label everything and chipotle you know

1143
00:46:02,069 --> 00:46:00,079
that uh brand they have also said we're

1144
00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:02,079
going you know because they're reacting

1145
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:04,400
to consumers demands and also these are

1146
00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:06,880
companies that are reasonable i mean why

1147
00:46:11,510 --> 00:46:09,119
are they demanding labeling because they

1148
00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:11,520
know there is you know

1149
00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:14,079
they're potentially dangerous

1150
00:46:19,589 --> 00:46:16,800
and i think that's really the the the

1151
00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:19,599
main thing is to get the supermarkets

1152
00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:22,160
because they will demand you know they

1153
00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:24,720
will and they have already um you know

1154
00:46:29,829 --> 00:46:27,760
reacted to consumer demand

1155
00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:29,839
gmo free midwest

1156
00:46:34,950 --> 00:46:32,079
works with the march against monsanto i

1157
00:46:36,870 --> 00:46:34,960
said may 24th we're having uh we'll have

1158
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:36,880
another march there

1159
00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:39,359
we do presentations like this we've you

1160
00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:40,319
know

1161
00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:42,400
you name it letter writing

1162
00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:44,880
um some people want to do legislative

1163
00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:47,280
campaigns there's talk of a legislative

1164
00:46:51,589 --> 00:46:49,680
or a statewide referendum on labeling in

1165
00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:51,599
missouri uh

1166
00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:53,280
fight the good fight that's great i

1167
00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:55,440
think that it's tough because i've you

1168
00:47:00,630 --> 00:46:57,920
know if it can't happen in california in

1169
00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:00,640
monsanto and missouri but

1170
00:47:05,349 --> 00:47:02,560
everyone just needs to get the word out

1171
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:05,359
i think people need to know

1172
00:47:09,190 --> 00:47:06,960
as i said

1173
00:47:10,870 --> 00:47:09,200
you can keep up with us website and

1174
00:47:13,670 --> 00:47:10,880
facebook page

1175
00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:13,680
i have sources we can get to the movie i

1176
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:15,440
think the main thing is is to get the

1177
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:17,520
word out because most people have no

1178
00:47:23,349 --> 00:47:20,880
idea and they only hear monsanto's uh